Honda Element. Manual — part 677

ECM/PCM ), then recheck. If the ECM/PCM was substituted, go to step 1.

NO -If the ECM/PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the ECM/PCM was substituted,
replace the original ECM/PCM (see ECM/PCM REPLACEMENT ). If any other Temporary DTCs or
DTCs are indicated, go to the INDICATED DTCS TROUBLESHOOTING.

DTC P0369: CMP SENSOR B CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT INTERRUPTION

1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

3. Start the engine, and let it idle 10 seconds.

4. Check the CMP B NOISE in the DATA LIST with the HDS.

Are 0 counts indicated?

YES -Go to step 7.

NO -Go to step 5.

5. Test-drive the vehicle for several minutes in the range of these recorded freeze data parameters:



ENGINE SPEED



VSS

6. Check the CMP NOISE B count in the DATA LIST with the HDS.

Are 0 counts indicated?

YES -Go to step 7.

NO -Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at
the CMP sensor B and the ECM/PCM.

7. Check for poor or loose connections and terminals at these locations:



CMP sensor B



ECM/PCM



Engine ground



Body ground

Are the connections and terminals OK?

YES -Go to step 8.

NOTE:

Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board snapshot, and
review the general troubleshooting information (see GENERAL
TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).

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NO - Repair the connectors or terminals, then go to step 11.

8. Check for damage to the CMP pulse plate B (see CMP PULSE PLATE A REPLACEMENT ).

Is the pulse plate damaged?

YES -Replace the CMP pulse plate B (see CMP PULSE PLATE A REPLACEMENT ), then go to step
11.

NO -Go to step 9.

9. Turn the ignition switch OFF.

10. Replace the CMP sensor B (see CMP SENSOR B REPLACEMENT ).

11. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

12. Reset the ECM/PCM with the HDS.

13. Do the ECM/PCM idle learn procedure (see ECM/PCM IDLE LEARN PROCEDURE ).

14. Start the engine, and let it idle 10 seconds.

15. Check for Temporary DTCs or DTCs with the HDS.

Is DTC P0369 indicated?

YES -Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the CMP sensor B and the ECM/PCM, then go to
step 1.

NO -Troubleshooting is complete. If any other Temporary DTCs or DTCs are indicated, go to the
INDICATED DTCS TROUBLESHOOTING.

DTC P050A: COLD START IDLE AIR CONTROL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE PROBLEM

1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

2. Check for Temporary DTCs or DTCs with the HDS.

Are any Temporary DTCs or DTCs other than P050A indicated?

YES -Go to the INDICATED DTCS TROUBLESHOOTING.

NO -Go to step 3.

3. Check for poor connections or blockage at the intake air duct.

Is it OK?

NOTE:

Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board snapshot, and
review the general troubleshooting information (see GENERAL
TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).

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YES -Go to step 4.

NO -Reconnect or repair the intake air duct, then go to step 20.

4. Check for damage at the air cleaner housing.

Is it OK?

YES -Go to step 5.

NO -Replace the air cleaner housing (see AIR CLEANER ELEMENT
INSPECTION/REPLACEMENT ), then go to step 20.

5. Check for dirt or debris in the air cleaner element.

Is it dirty?

YES -Replace the air cleaner element or remove the debris (see AIR CLEANER ELEMENT
INSPECTION/REPLACEMENT ), then go to step 20.

NO -Go to step 6.

6. Let the engine cool until the value of ECT SENSOR 1 is 122°F (50°C) or less.

7. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

8. Start the engine, and let it idle 10 seconds or more.

9. Monitor the OBD STATUS for DTC P050A in the DTCs MENU with the HDS.

Does the screen indicate FAILED?

YES -Go to step 10.

NO -If the screen indicates PASSED, intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. If the screen
indicates EXECUTING, let the engine idle until a result comes on. If the screen indicates OUT OF
CONDITION, go to step 6 and recheck.

10. Do the ETCS TEST in the INSPECTION MENU with the HDS.

Is the THROTTLE ACTUATOR CONTROL VALVE normal?

YES -Go to step 11.

NO -Replace the throttle body (see THROTTLE BODY REMOVAL/INSTALLATION ), then go to
step 20.

11. Start the engine. Hold the engine speed at 3,000 rpm without load (in Park or neutral) until the radiator

fan comes on, then let it idle.

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12. Monitor the ENGINE SPEED in the DATA LIST with the HDS, and hold the engine speed at 2,500 rpm

for at least 30 seconds.

13. While holding the engine speed at 2,500 rpm, check the MAF SENSOR in the DATA LIST with the

HDS.

Is there about 6.4- 9.2 gm/s?

YES -Go to step 14.

NO -Replace the MAF sensor/IAT sensor (see MAP SENSOR REPLACEMENT ), then go to step 20.

14. Turn the ignition switch OFF.

15. Allow the engine to cool to ambient temperature.

16. Note the ambient temperature.

17. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

18. Note the value of IAT SENSOR quickly in the DATA LIST with the HDS.

19. Compare the value of the IAT SENSOR and the ambient temperature.

Does the value of the IAT SENSOR differ 5.4°F (3°C) or more?

YES -Replace the MAF sensor/IAT sensor (see MAP SENSOR REPLACEMENT ), then go to step 20.

NO -Check for dirt, carbon, or damage in the throttle bore. If there is dirt or carbon, clean the throttle
body (see THROTTLE BODY CLEANING ), then go to step 20. If there is damage in the throttle bore,
replace the throttle body (see THROTTLE BODY REMOVAL/INSTALLATION ), then go to step 20.

20. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).

21. Reset the ECM/PCM with the HDS.

22. Do the ECM/PCM idle learn procedure (see ECM/PCM IDLE LEARN PROCEDURE ).

23. Let the engine cool until the value of ECT SENSOR 1 is 122 T (50°C) or less.

24. Start the engine, and let it idle for 10 seconds or more.

25. Check for Temporary DTCs or DTCs with the HDS.

Is DTC P050A indicated?

YES -Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the throttle body, the MAF sensor/IAT sensor, and
the ECM/PCM, then go to step 1.

NO -Go to step 26.

26. Monitor the OBD STATUS for DTC P050A in the DTCs MENU with the HDS.

Does the screen indicate PASSED?

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